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New Post 3/7/2008 3:07 PM
  switters
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Hope this isn't too tangential, 
but consider the source.

Been thinking about movies in which "the machine(s)" become(s) self-aware. Here's some off the top of my head.

War Games
2001
Star Trek I
Terminator
The Matrix
St. Elmo's Fire
Artificial Intelligence
Blade Runner
A Room With A View
I suppose you could make a case for Ash in Alien, but it'd be tough.

Full disclosure: I love movies in which "the machine(s)" become(s) self-aware.

Great stuff, Keith.
 
New Post 3/7/2008 3:19 PM
  Kevin Fournier
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I'd make a case for 

the Haunting of Hill House (the book, not any of the terrible movies).  It isn't customary to think of a house as a machine, but it's a man-made construct and the implication is very strong that the house itself is aware and malevolent (ie, not possessed) and is so as a result of its construction.

How could you forget Maximum Overdrive?????

 
New Post 3/7/2008 3:31 PM
  switters
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Re: I'd make a case for 
The "slippery slope". Because if I include Maximum Overdrive then there's no way I'm able to leave out this classic.

In so many ways, a bed really is a machine. I've got my well-honed online reputation to consider after all. Gosh!
 
New Post 3/7/2008 7:58 PM
  Michael Kenney
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Re: Hope this isn't too tangential, 

Keith~

Great work.

My head hurts.

I wonder if a computer/program could have a "conversation" about the subject itself.  Could a machine tell you why it disagrees with the conclusions you draw? Could a machine correct the folks in South Bend on how to make the nanoswitches switch on and off more efficiently? Can a robot design a better robot?

 

 
New Post 3/8/2008 6:04 AM
  Keifus
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PLEASE PUSH APPROPRIATE BUTTON, ASSHOLE 
Modified By Keifus  on 3/8/2008 7:10:36 AM)

I must have missed that part about St. Elmo's Fire.  I only saw it once, when HBO was young, and the possibility of R-rated boobs could have been the only conceivable reason for watching it at that age.  And you know, it's not like Ahnold could ever act or anything, but he was born to play the terminator.  "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate.  It becomes self-aware...People try to pull the plug"  (even when he uses metaphors he sounds like a robot.)

Sentient robots?  I picture them as waking up to a hellish existence, like the alpha model robocops (how could you miss robocop?) that blew their brains out at the first chance. 

Michael: people write thick books about that stuff.  (I think the answer for now is "yes," but only if you instruct it to.  Where the line between running someone else's program ends and volition and consciousness begin is far from clear (or near).)

K

"That machine just called me an asshole!"

 
New Post 3/17/2008 5:59 PM
  The Quiet Man
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2001 was of course based 

on the Tarkovsky film Solaris (and that was taken from the book).

Was the robot on Lost in Space self-aware?

There was that Stephen King film where the car is possesed - I guess we can't claim it was self-aware though.

Of course the ultimate self-aware computer appeared in "Demon Seed" - the scene where Julie Christie gets raped and impregnated by the computer was surprisingly almost graphic.

I guess you were going to tell me that Yoda wasn't a machine (but  sure seemed like it he). 

 
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