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New Post 2/25/2008 7:28 AM
  Kevin Fournier
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Night of the Excitable Foreigners 

Surprisingly, I'd seen 3 out 5 best picture nominees this year.  Can't remember the last time I sported a .600 "seen it" percentage going into Oscar night.  Juno was cute, No Country for Old Men was good-not-great, There Will Be Blood was insanely fucking awesome.  I now wish I had posted those opinons a few weeks ago, and then maybe the Oscar voters would have gotten it right.

The ceremony itself was pleasantly lame.  I believe "stumblebummy" is the technical term to describe it.  But so many excited foreigners, that was sweet -- especially the Irish singer-songwriter dude, who will always be the gross-yet-awesome lead singer of the Commitments to me (bet he wants to punch people who say that).

Barbara Walters has passed into an Andy Rooney-esque senility.

 

 
New Post 2/25/2008 7:50 AM
  Kevin Fournier
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Re: Night of the Excitable Foreigners 

p.s, can someone explain Ratatouille to me?  Cause all I saw was a heavy-handed, overlong cartoon with terrible and unnecessary narration and some spectacular animation.  Did you guys see a different movie?  Did I accidentally rent, like, a lame "director's cut" a la Blade Runner?

 

 
New Post 2/25/2008 7:51 AM
  The Quiet Man
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Confession 

I dated Sarah Polley. 

 
New Post 2/25/2008 7:58 AM
  switters
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Re: Night of the Excitable Foreigners 
Paul Thomas Anderson is a genius. Ironic that he strikes me as a sort of Coen brother cousin kind of filmmaker, as if Wes Anderson had both vision and balls. Blood probably should've won for Best Editing, but Ultimatum was kind of a no brainer considering the train station scene and the brawl in the apartment (in which Julia Stiles takes not one but two elbows to the face).

I haven't seen that much foreign exuberance since that little Italian guy pulled a Tom Cruise for Life Is Beautiful and then proceeded to never be heard from again.

Gotta love the Irish. Seriously. You have to. I think it's in their constitution.

George Clooney, Johnny Depp, Matt Damon, Casey Affleck, Sean Penn, among others: all the real deal.
 
New Post 2/25/2008 7:59 AM
  Kevin Fournier
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Spooky 

Years ago, a fortune teller said to me, "Kevin," she said, "One day, out of nowhere, an acquaintance will tell you that he once dated Sarah Polley.  Later that year, a black man will become President of the United States."

I now wish I hadn't said, "You're a lying slut, give me my money back."

 

 
New Post 2/25/2008 8:05 AM
  The Quiet Man
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we lived across the street from each other as children 

we were kids,  same schools, I was the older kid...........

 
New Post 2/25/2008 8:46 AM
  Keifus
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Oscar, Oscar, Oscar 

I only saw four films of all of 'em together, which has to make me some kind of especial artistic cretin.  Well, true only up till the halfway point of the broadcast, when I went to bed--maybe there were some sleepers thrown around at the tail end.

Bourne Ultimatum got best sound editing, which it deserved for all I know, but one of the scenes I best remember is watching the blonde lady shuffle papers, and thinking they really left none of the audio to chance.  Here, every crease and tap and fluff was rendered with the overplayed tension that's usually reserved for characters cocking their guns and clicking their safeties in anticipation of a shootout (e.g., speaking of barely remembered).  I mean none of this as a compliment: it may have been skillful sound editing, but I don't think it's exactly the sort of thing that's supposed to draw attention to itself. 

Bourne lost something in this installment--the action was as powerful as ever, but it lost its sense of surprise, and of consequence.  Here, I felt that the lead and the baddies could have whaled superhumanly on each otehr all day and walk away, just like every other action movie.  Bourne's plot mechanics didn't seem to be very logical, but I might have been buzzed or nodding off.

Anyway.  Other flicks I saw that got noms were Norbit, and Pirates 3.  It's hard to say which of these sucked harder.  Pirates certainly sucked more spectacularly.

Ratatouille was the best of the bunch I saw, but it lacked something in the storytelling coherence.  It just kept going, even after it reached its logical conclusion.  I think the thing about that movie, is that some individual scenes are so particularly well done as to induce love, and the rest of it doesn't suck quite enough to bring it down.

I was struck that (1) Helen Mirrin looks great for her age, (2) how much Daniel Day Lewis looks like Peter Sellers, at least in that one clip, (3) how none of the first three musical numbers could hold my attention, (4) how nervous Jon Stewart was (couldn't decide if it was charming or off-putting), and (5) that for all the glamour, the actors all looked like normal everyday slobs on live tv.

K (Sheesh, I go away for a day, and the board's all lit up with interesting stuff.  Obviously, I should go away more often.)

 
New Post 2/25/2008 8:59 AM
  Michael Daunt
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Re: we lived across the street from each other as children 

I think you're confused (or a child-molester).  You're at least 20 years older.  You may both have been children (although I have my doubts about you), but not at the same time.

 
New Post 2/25/2008 9:34 AM
  rundeep
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I saw Michael Clayton, There Will Be Blood and "No Country" 

and unlike you, I think the right film got the Oscar last night. I think TWBB is the most overrated movie I have ever seen with almost zero dramatic arc or expectation, though Daniel Day-Lewis is, indeed, a force of nature and the cinematography was great.

I totally love the song that won, and indeed, thought it was the only candidate that actually resembled a song, as opposed to a set-piece.

Me, I adored Ratatouille. Because it gets at the essence of food -- emotional response. I've seen it since at home, and loved it even more.

Finally, I watched last night in full 1080p for the first time. Man, it was strange. First, Cameron Diaz has really, really terribly skin. That is one serious acne problem under about a pound of concealer.  Amy Adams (who I think is astonishingly adorable), has very blue veins on the underside of her arms. Jennifer Garner is perfectly gorgeous. Travolta could not be more gay. Helen Mirren does have wrinkles, but they look good on her. George Clooney is unbelievably good-looking, and his girlfriend has small eyes and terrible taste in clothes. Renee Zellwegger has no eyes at all.

I wish to call an end to all production numbers at Oscar. Other than the year when Whoopi Goldberg descended on a trapeze, I can't remember ONE I thought didn't look like a horrid update of the "Up With People" halftime shows that used to rule at the Super Bowl.

 
New Post 2/25/2008 9:37 AM
  Kevin Fournier
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Re: we lived across the street from each other as children 

Perhaps he's actually John Neville?

 
New Post 2/25/2008 9:39 AM
  daveto
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Re: Night of the Excitable Foreigners 

Blood sucked (hi, bacon). Really mediocre stuff (loved the score though, and without that you would've thought it sucked too). DDL at the Oscars looked almost embarrassed, and why shouldn't he .. shameful over-acting a nothing plot. Viggo should've gotten his hardware.

No Country rocked. Smart movie. Treated us like adults. Lots to think about.

Sarah Polley. You Go girl. Quite a talent. And Bardem, I don't even know what he said to his mother, but hung on every word anyway.

 
New Post 2/25/2008 9:56 AM
  Kevin Fournier
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Re: I saw Michael Clayton, There Will Be Blood and "No Country" 

Old-fashioned throwdown? "the most overrated movie I have ever seen"??!  Them's fighting words!

Really, though.  That movie killed me. Zero dramatic arc?  There were long stretches when I sat there in terrified anticipation of what might happen -- that insane scene when the oil well blows (Day Lewis's oil-covered face floating in the dark, all crazy eyes and the way he says "No he isn't" when the guy asks him if his son is all right), when HW sets the fire in his father's cabin (or did he know his father was in there?), when Plainview drunkenly accosts Mary at the picnic and starts offering her a new dress (creepy!), when he twigs to the fact (on the beach) that his half-brother is a fraud but oddly holds off confronting him until after the brothel scene... and then that baptism scene ("Give me the blood, Jesus, and let me get out of here!") -- I loved everything, everything, everything about that movie. 

 

 

 
New Post 2/25/2008 9:59 AM
  Kevin Fournier
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Re: Night of the Excitable Foreigners 

Sigh.  Et tu, daveto?  See above to run, but I'll add: "overacting is underrated."

Again, nothing against Old Country, but for me, Blood was on an Apolocalypse Now, once-in-a-few-decades kind of plane.  Am I alone here on this, really?

 

 
New Post 2/25/2008 10:02 AM
  The Quiet Man
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older, I did say older. 

but no - I'm not 20 years older................. though I sometimes feel like it.....

 
New Post 2/25/2008 10:51 AM
  rundeep
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Re: I saw Michael Clayton, There Will Be Blood and "No Country" 

The only anticipation was in the first maybe 45 minutes of the movie (which I thoroughly enjoyed).  Then it became clear Plainview was never, ever, going to lose. He's rich when Paul Dano visits him. Then it becomes a repeat of: Man versus well? Winner, Plainview. Man versus other man? No contest, and never was. Plainview wins.  Plainview never overcomes, Plainview only wins. HW does become a significant setback and he deals with it by abandonment. Does not overcome. Gets him back (under duress) but never really moves anywhere emotionally. His outbursts seem to be inorganic and inauthentic. End of movie? He's richer, abandons his son (totally this time), and murders (not for the first time).

Honestly, it felt like a less interesting prairie version of "Citizen Kane." 

I don't remember ever checking my watch so much during a movie, and sorry dave, I don't even like the score. I loved it at first, until it became positively intrusive, like a big fat musical arrow pointing to each scene: "here, did you miss the dread? DADADADA"

 
New Post 2/25/2008 11:04 AM
  switters
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Re: I saw Michael Clayton, There Will Be Blood and "No Country" 
Ratatouille. The open was too long, and the middle went on too long, but Patton Oswalt really brought a lot to Remi. Bird cast Patton because he, Patton, is passionate about food. Food finds itself in a lot of his standup act.

But the scene that made me love the movie was, in addition to all the rats preparing dinner, Ego's flashback to his childhood when he takes his first bite. That made me cry. Beautifully done.

Curious, for those of you who didn't like Oil, what did you think of Magnolia? Full disclosure: I thought it was a near perfect movie. Hard to watch, like Leaving Las Vegas, but quite beautiful. Pretty gutsy to have it turn into a musical for 3 minutes, if you ask me.

Interesting omissions: Hoffman as supporting in Charlie Wilson's War.
Viggo as lead in Eastern Promises.
Bale as supporting in Yuma.
Others.

By the way, it's almost always unhealthy to watch The Oscars sober. I think one reason it might not have been particularly great this year was because there was no Golden Globes, and nobody had a chance to get whatever they needed to out of their system. Or something. Just a thought.
 
New Post 2/25/2008 12:06 PM
  daveto
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Re: I saw Michael Clayton, There Will Be Blood and "No Country" 
Modified By daveto  on 2/25/2008 1:21:33 PM)

swit: I loved (loved, loved) Magnolia .. agreed it's a near perfect movie. Not so with Blood. Plainview's character was all over the map. The thing is, there's no pattern, no logic, no nothing .. he says he's driven by hate and anger, but we don't see it (the why or the genesis). He says he's nuts (hunt you down in your house) but we don't see it. There's no coherency, he's a pastiche. (Not so with the Magnolia gang, that was brilliant. Cruise in the interview, the old guy breaking down, etc, inspired, genius stuff.)

I know part of my problem with Blood is that I was expecting a lot. No problem with DDL by the way, I think he's done brilliant stuff. And I wanted it to be good. The explosion and fire scene, to me that was hokey, I've seen B-horror movies more riveting than that. Think of all the stuff that was introduced but never went anywhere, the conflict between the church and the oil guys, the faux brother and the second-in-command, the "womanizing" (what womanizing?), etc. Just a lot of stuff thrown out there, see what sticks. (And run, I know a lot of people are down on the score; I liked it, only because, well let's say on the daveto scale out of 10, it brought it from a 5 to a 6.5.)

 
New Post 2/25/2008 12:16 PM
  Michael Daunt
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Re: Night of the Excitable Foreigners 

I may be alone in preferring this year's awards show over any of the past 20ish years.  No lame, poorly-recited-off-the-teleprompter jokes - improvement.  No big production numbers - improvement.

But...none of that, no Thalberg, no Hirschorn (sp?), only one honorary old poop - and they still managed to go over the allotted time!!!

Plus...Harrison Ford - stroke victim? (I say yes)

How could anybody not love Laura Linney?

 

 
New Post 2/25/2008 12:21 PM
  Kevin Fournier
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Re: I saw Michael Clayton, There Will Be Blood and "No Country" 

Well, well.  Colour me bemused.  As with Ratatouille, I begin to feel like I saw a different movie from everyone else -- kind of like a Bizarro-Jerry-episode-of-Seinfeld thing.

 

 
New Post 2/25/2008 12:21 PM
  rundeep
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Re: Night of the Excitable Foreigners 

Yes, Yes, Yes, on Harrison Ford.  Calista won't be sticking around to clean up his drool, I'd wager.

And I enjoyed Stewart. Thought he was damn near perfect as a host. Bringing the Czech girl back after the break to enjoy her moment was mahvelous.

 
New Post 2/25/2008 12:35 PM
  Michael Daunt
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I really hated Ratatouille 

Total grossout.  Sorry, but the idea of rats in the kitchen is nauseating.  Well-animated, mind you, but disgusting.

 
New Post 2/25/2008 3:29 PM
  switters
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